Al Sande

Glad to be able to help out… I’m a bit of a newbie at this end of it but am learning more as I find the time to experiment with this very interesting application.

I hope you find your answer…

Thanks for the tips, Simone -they’ll come in handy for future projects. Most of my “work” (I use that term loosely!) is in and around animation as that’s where my primary interest is with Blender and 3d – but the web content (with Verge3d) is something I’ve enjoyed learning about but have a long way to go.

I’ve done some work on optimizing some of my scenes. The first major one I started, still a work in progress and unpublished, loaded quite slowly so I watched the appropriate videos and have done some optimization of the models and shrunk the textures from 4k to 1k as well as combining a lot of them into single texture per model – but there are still lots of things to do, maybe even doing another optimization pass at the models. I did get the load speed down quite a bit, though. I’ll explore the backface culling setting – thanks for the tip!

I suspect that my major problem is one you’ve probably stumbled upon – I have a lot of irons in the fire! Part of that is that I’m still trying to get better with Blender (that will always be the case!!) so am always trying things out – and have done quite a bit of work this year on sculpting and retopology (much more work needed!!) as well as nodes, baking textures, etc… Many of my “organic models” have particle-based hair so unfortunately will likely never see the light of day in Verge3d (although I’ve been experimenting with making “hair cards” as a stand-in). You more than likely saw my experiments with photogrammetry as well (some of which made it into Verge3d tests – but the number of vertices generated have to be dealt with through either retopology or decimation and/or remeshing).

I had a lot of fun doing the “On Alert” animation in Blender – and used a few things other than the standard animations (like using several noise modifiers on the camera rotation to simulate the “rocking” one would get when filming from a boat, using an ocean modifier to drive the waves, and volumetrics for the fog as the whole thing lives in a big cube!) I was fortunate enough to have visited the lighthouse in question so had some reference pictures and a good choice of soundtracks from the videos I recorded as I’m a big believer in “intellectual property” rights and either make all of my own stuff or try to attribute the creators properly…

I suspect my biggest hurdle in using Verge3d is that I always tend to think in things in terms of animations – and the 3d scenes are a bit of an afterthought so aren’t necessarily optimized for that. I’m still trying to sort out all of the things I think I need for where I think I want to go with this (is that vague enough?) – but my primary goals are to learn new stuff, do interesting things, and have fun. Unless someone decides they want to pay be something to do this, those goals will probably stay the same… Fortunately for me, Yuri gave me a break on the Verge3d license fee last fall so that I can afford to experiment a bit without generating any income.

We’ve probably hijacked this forum enough (sorry Yuri!) but I’m sure you’ve presented enough tips to justify all of the words!! I’ll take these to heart on my upcoming projects… Thanks!

Al

I had a chance to explore this a bit more yesterday – and I had no idea of the detail/depth of this project when I made my initial comment… You’ve done a lot of stuff I’ve only read about so far but have given me a few more ideas about what I think want to do with this technology. My “vision” is a variation on some kind of virtual amusement park of sorts (you’ve already been on a helicopter ride which is like a rudimentary proof of concept) but I am still just exploring the basics… I’d really like to get into VR but maybe next year as I’m on a retirement budget.

As I was moving between scenes (something I’ve only attempted in my projects once, mostly unsuccessfully!) I couldn’t help thinking that if it was possible to do “background loads” things would be so much quicker. Although I know it’s not the same thing, I kept “seeing” something like the old MS-DOS task switcher (which wasn’t a multitasker!) but it would preload the next scene allowing it to be ‘stuffed’ into browser somehow. I’m sure if it was possible Yuri would have sorted it out :)

I think I just dated myself as an oldtimer! In any case, I enjoyed exploring your app and will head back there again to explore some more…

I’ve experimented with a few different scenes on my blog although I wouldn’t call these finished – more just results of “learn as you go”. If you’re curious, you can check them out at https://sande.ca/wp/category/3d-scenes/ although they might be a bit slow as my host is not a top performer ($$)… There is another helicopter one there as well as a flying airplane and a couple of basic scenes/models made with photogrammetry.

Al

It loads for me, but does stall at 60% for a few seconds. When I tackled that situation in one of my first projects, I tried to simplify things a bit (ie reduce the complexity of the models) and shrink/optimize the textures (from 4k to 1k) which helped quite a bit (although I could probably still do some more optimizations). I think there’s a tutorial somewhere here that deals with this.

With your other application showing the watermark, I think you might have to regenerate the GLTF files with the registered version and reupload.

I hope this helps…

Glad it helped. This was a real mystery for me for a few months until I stumbled across a post detailing the answer as I use a lot of curves/loops in my animations…