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2020-09-04 at 1:26 pm #32418KurtGRCustomer
Hi,
I’m currently trying to create some water with a normal map – adding transmission/opacity doesn’t make the surface transparent – is this a limitation when a normal map is applied?
Thanks,
Kurt.2020-09-04 at 2:04 pm #32420Mikhail LuzyaninStaffNope, have you set a trancperency type in the material settings?
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2020-09-04 at 2:35 pm #32421KurtGRCustomerYeah I set it to blend and it hasn’t changed anything –
2020-09-04 at 3:24 pm #32427Mikhail LuzyaninStaffTransmission will not work as expected, but opacity must. Can you share a screenshot of the material with textures and how they connected.
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2020-09-04 at 3:49 pm #32428KurtGRCustomerTo be honest I haven’t tried opacity with the alpha mode set to blend yet, let me try that and I’ll get back to you (sorry for the slow responses, I’m deep in webflow and puzzles right now)
Thanks!
2020-09-06 at 9:53 pm #32472xeonCustomerSuper new to Verge 3d (2 days and counting)..but not to programming or MAYA but have not been able to get a transparent material to work yet. Even copied the material used in the steam-teapot’s MAYA file, exported the material and used it on my project and still not transparent. Is there a setting in V3d that has to be set?
Xeon
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Tutorials - https://www.xeons3dlab.com2020-09-07 at 6:21 am #32479Mikhail LuzyaninStaffTry to set Alpha mode type to Blend with texture connected to aloha/opacity input of the material, not transmission.
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2020-10-14 at 5:03 pm #34176alexxisParticipantHi Xeon, I’m at the same point now, how to create glas.
And how to get transparency…
Could you solve it? :)
I found out that the teapot glas needs some input in the normal camera.
– shape set on “opaque” off
– opacity low
– transmission 100%
tested several other settings now for one hour, no success…2020-10-14 at 5:09 pm #34177tsvetanParticipantHi,
I have the same problem with ALPHA map. I just want to make texture with transparent bg but it’s not working for me (also I’ve tried many different approaches. Even with the lambert material is not working). Here’s screenshots of my setup with AiStandardSurface:
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You must be logged in to view attached files.2020-10-14 at 8:37 pm #34181xeonCustomerThe following was my solution…not the best but it got me through a pinch.
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Tutorials - https://www.xeons3dlab.com2020-10-14 at 8:40 pm #34183xeonCustomerthe above is the alpha map. The screen shots show you the attribute settings and connections
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Tutorials - https://www.xeons3dlab.com2020-10-14 at 10:22 pm #34190alexxisParticipantHello,
thank you both!I have also found a rough solution.
GLASS: I replicated it from the teapot scene. I will describe below.
ALPHA TRANSPARENCY: I have missed the “AlphA MODE” information, but found after long testing with the teapot scene a solution for opacity which is really strange but it works in every Alpha mode for transparency:
The opacity input needs a PNG file with one layer in Photoshop (not merged to background in photoshop and no alpha).
And you have to set a black layer on approximately 10% opacity in Photoshop. Then save this as PNG (when you reopen it will be a layer of 100% opacity, but it’s the same document, just simplified during saving process).
In Maya in aiSurfaceShader plug it into R, G and B of Opacity.(If you want now something to be fully opaque (visible) you have to use this PNG and put the element as a white layer over the black transparent layer in Photoshop.)
When I used Alpha Mode “MASK” also a black& white picture worked.
GLASS: I used also a thin transparent layer in a PNG for the OPACITY input like mentioned above (this is how the teapot glass was done).
And the photoshop layer opacity can drive how visible the glass becomes. (I used a black layer, I did not test a white layer).Then it was important to use roughness with texture and other imperfection maps (in every possible input, also in opacity), because otherwise it does not look like a realistic material. Your approach to put this into specular is right, but I would put in roughness only random imperfections in order to have it still more glossy over all.
AO for GLASS : In the teapot scene they used the AO also with opacity and in roughness and in base color, which makes the glass much more visible and and shaded (sometimes is the AO of course inverted, depending on the map).
I also found that using “coat” helps a bit, too, to make the glas more visible.IOR: I did not find out how I can get an IOR distortion with this shader.
I think it could be driven over normals? I have no experience with this, I’m normally working with Vray which is very different.(this answer is posted twice, after editing and submitting my first answer it wasn’t anymore visible in my browser)
2023-04-26 at 4:52 pm #63296scoteParticipantIf you all try to get glass Effect with Arnold you need to use Transmission and not Opacity.
Transmission is the effect for glass
Opacity is just a mask or an alpha use to cut a shape out l: like you need the shape of a leaf but on a plane geometry.2023-04-26 at 4:57 pm #63299kdvParticipantIf you all try to get glass Effect with Arnold you need to use Transmission and not Opacity.
Transmission is not supported by
MeshNodeMaterial
andMeshStandardMaterial
used in Verge3D…Puzzles and JS coding. Fast and expensive.
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