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Q; Animation in a CAD hierarchy not working as expected

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  • 2020-05-05 at 3:38 pm #27222
    robwu01
    Participant

    Hi all,

    I have a CAD model, that will explode a part outwards (and back in) into separate objects on a button click.
    This all works fine in the puzzles for the code.

    I’m trying to get my animation over to Verge from Blender, but for some reason only my main objects show animation.

    I have some keyframes set in Blender for moving the parts outwards & back in again
    on a basic hierarchy:
    -base model
    –empty 1
    — object 1
    — object 2
    — object 3
    –empty 2
    — object 3
    — object 4
    — object 5
    Animation is set to the ’empty’ objects & and it’s children objects.
    The empties move the hierarchy part outwards & the objects have their own little translation on top of that to get into the proper location.

    When I play this in Verge, the only animation I see is on the empties, the animation on the children objects is not there.
    I tried every option in the Blender/Verge settings on the animated objects & render settings, but so far no luck.

    I’m triggering the animation in puzzles on ’emptie 1’and ’empty 2′, maybe that will not ‘see’ the animation of the underlying objects? Or do I need to trigger every separate object on click? Hope not… ;-)

    Any tips are welcome, as I feel I’m overlooking something basic… :scratch:

    rob

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    2020-05-06 at 6:01 am #27249
    Mikhail Luzyanin
    Staff

    Please, attach an example file with not working animation.

    Co-founder and lead graphics specialist at Soft8Soft.

    2020-05-06 at 8:33 am #27253
    robwu01
    Participant

    I can zip the project & blendfile if you want.

    Do you want a download link here, or via email or something?

    thanks!

    rob

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    2020-05-06 at 9:27 am #27257
    Mikhail Luzyanin
    Staff

    Download link here.

    Co-founder and lead graphics specialist at Soft8Soft.

    2020-05-06 at 10:01 am #27258
    robwu01
    Participant

    Hi,

    Thanks for wanting to look into this. The file can be found here:
    -removed- (29Mb)
    Temporary scene can be seen here: http://www.rowumedia.nl/clients/svv/index.html

    Please let me know when you DL the file, so I can remove it again.

    rob

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    2020-05-08 at 12:40 pm #27409
    robwu01
    Participant

    Hi Mikhail,

    Did you had time yet to look at the file? I’m really curious what it can be….

    Thanks,

    rob

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    2020-05-08 at 1:40 pm #27411
    Mikhail Luzyanin
    Staff

    Sorry for late reply. To run animation in the engine youu need to play it using Play animation puzzle for each object that aniamted not only it’s parent. It’s also better to set a 1 frame for each object even if animation plays from 200 frame.

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    Co-founder and lead graphics specialist at Soft8Soft.

    2020-05-08 at 3:19 pm #27415
    robwu01
    Participant

    Ah.. That’s too bad to hear…..

    For these kind of animations that will take a lot of extra work.
    This demo has almost 50 separate elements, in two sets of animations.
    This becomes almost unworkable if there’s even more small objects to be shown.
    It will become a long list of elements in the play puzzle, and hard to control.

    It would be nice to have Verge look at the full hierarchy for all animated objects.
    For now I will have to re-organize my hierarchy, join all sub-objects into one mesh, and re-do some keyframes.
    I did a quick test and that seems to be working fine. A bit of extra work, but at least I can start finalizing my little test project :)

    Thanks for the answer!

    rob

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    2020-05-08 at 4:55 pm #27418
    Mikhail Luzyanin
    Staff

    You can add all animated objects into one collection and put it into one plsy animation puzzle. No need tfor extra work.

    Co-founder and lead graphics specialist at Soft8Soft.

    2020-05-08 at 6:05 pm #27421
    robwu01
    Participant

    Nice! That indeed would save a lot of time :)

    Thanks for that again! Blender and Verge are a great combo!

    rob

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    2020-07-22 at 2:20 pm #30467
    doehlma
    Customer

    Hello,

    I followed your posts and I had some equal problem before some time.. and I got following tip from other user:

    If you have the animation definded complete in timeline, select all parts which animate, then from the menus bake the animation (object/animation/bake action) with the “Visual Keying” option selected. This creates keyframes for the objects position on each frame, which Verge3d can interpret…

    Maybe works also for you

    For my interest is it possible robwu01 that I can get your model because I am very interested in the explode and cut modifications… ???

    Best regards
    Marcus

    2020-07-22 at 2:41 pm #30470
    robwu01
    Participant

    Hi Marcus,

    Forgot about this thread tbh, as we finished the project already.

    You don’t have to bake anything. Just animate the ‘exploding’ on the elements hierarchy, and be sure to put all the animated connecting parts in a Collection, or Collections.

    I had three in the end, one for the top part, one for the side and one for the bottom hierarchy.
    In Verge puzzles you can then select each Collection and trigger the animation as a whole on all separate elements inside. Works just fine.

    For the Cut/Detail inside, we had a separate non-animated model in the same scene, which is hidden on startup. A menu button would hide the animated version and show the cut through model. And vice versa.
    We also had see-through material options and some more things.

    Hope this helps.
    And unfortunately I cannot share any models delivered by clients. :unsure:

    rob

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    2020-07-22 at 2:49 pm #30472
    Yuri Kovelenov
    Staff

    Hi Rob,

    congrats with the completed project! what company do you work for? We’d enable the licensee status for your account.

    Chief 3D Verger | LinkedIn | Twitter

    2020-07-22 at 3:22 pm #30474
    robwu01
    Participant

    Hi Yuri,

    I’m a 3d freelancer based in Holland, and did this test for a company in Germany I often work with.

    This one was their internal project to see how easily it would be to move from Softimage+Unity to Blender+Verge for interactive WebGL demos.

    We are working on some other demo’s atm, I’ll see if I can post the weblinks here.

    cheers,

    rob

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    2020-07-24 at 9:25 pm #30614
    doehlma
    Customer

    Hello robwu01,

    can you tell me the main steps in blender 2.83.. to create this exploded view
    like in your presentation ?

    Would be great if it is possible for you :-)

    Best regards,
    Marcus

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